Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[Jiren The Alpha]

There's still the manga. But it's bizarre how much the content Toyotaro has been producing is seemingly flying under the radar for the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Actually it's bizarre how people to this day pretends that side manga that's it's initial concept was to the promote the anime could serve as anything valuable to the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

Unless they gonna completely stop making new DB games/products in the next 2-3 years bc i don’t see how anything will continue if they don’t use new material you can only sell the same Z/GT/Super arcs/characters we’ve seen for so long before it gives diminishing to 0 returns

It’s just a lot of Radio silence for a long time wish they’d be clearer with the fandom

Was it conformed that it was Toyotaro's idea? Because i think the anime did that story first if i remember correctly.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Actually it's bizarre how people to this day pretends that side manga that's it's initial concept was to the promote the anime could serve as anything valuable to the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

Unless they gonna completely stop making new DB games/products in the next 2-3 years bc i don’t see how anything will continue if they don’t use new material you can only sell the same Z/GT/Super arcs/characters we’ve seen for so long before it gives diminishing to 0 returns

It’s just a lot of Radio silence for a long time wish they’d be clearer with the fandom

Was it conformed that it was Toyotaro's idea? Because i think the anime did that story first if i remember correctly.

The anime only did a tiny cutscene of that. What made it into Kakarot was Trunks training with the z sword in the Kai outfit similar to how Gohan did (https://ibb.co/WsX893X )and the supreme kai and him both battling dabura and bobidi together to prevent buu with actually it showing him dying all which ended up in Kakarot (https://youtu.be/L54yBIPqNhs)

[Cipher]

The Moro saga seems to take place sometime after Broly ended and the Granolah saga happens right after Moro is defeated. Goku told the Heathers that the Earth Dragon Balls have been recently used. Meaning that they still need time to recharge after the wish was used in Broly.

The first few pages of the Granolah arc are right after the end of the Moro arc, but after that some months pass before Seven-Three’s distress beacon is picked up. (Or after he’s retrieved by Goichi but before Granolah steals him; can’t remember.)

Then several more weeks pass between then and the start of the Granolah-Goku-Vegeta fight.

Re: Future Trunks vs. Dabra in Kakarot: No indication whose idea that backstory original was, but regardless, the game cutscenes and dialogue for that part are adapted nearly 1:1 from the Super manga. Like, down to specific panels. Also, that scene isn’t from bonus pages; it’s its own main chapter near the start of the Future Trunks arc. Iirc it’s right at the start of Volume 3.

[SupremeKai25]

There's still the manga. But it's bizarre how much the content Toyotaro has been producing is seemingly flying under the radar for the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Actually it's bizarre how people to this day pretends that side manga that's it's initial concept was to the promote the anime could serve as anything valuable to the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

Unless they gonna completely stop making new DB games/products in the next 2-3 years bc i don’t see how anything will continue if they don’t use new material you can only sell the same Z/GT/Super arcs/characters we’ve seen for so long before it gives diminishing to 0 returns

It’s just a lot of Radio silence for a long time wish they’d be clearer with the fandom

They can at least milk Dragon Ball Breakers for some time with Super DLCs. There are at least 2 Super DLCs that come to mind:

- Future Trunks arc DLC, with Goku Black/Future Zamasu/Fused Zamasu as the raider, taking place in the ruined apocalyptic Earth. Originally I thought it was a travesty that this wasn't included at launch, but now I realize that it's a genius move. It ensures content for the future that they can milk, and since Goku Black/Zamasu are the most popular and iconic antagonists to come out of Super, they can milk that DLC.

And thematically it fits perfectly since Goku Black/Zamasu made it his mission to hunt down every remaining mortal, there are actual shots in the anime of Goku Black just walking around the streets, looking for survivors left to kill.

- Tournament of Power DLC where you can play as a fodder fighter from one of the weak universes (like the universe of Gowasu or the universe of Love or the Furry universe) or the raider (Jiren, Toppo, Kefla, etc. all these powerful contestants who hunt down the weaklings).

So anyway they got some milk they can produce with this videogame for at least one/one and a half years

[Skar]

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

I've always wondered about that. Toriyama is involved and it sells better than some manga that have had anime adaptations. I'm curious what kind of ideas fans expect from Toei if they're assuming the manga will be ignored. Many of Toei's old ideas were reimaginings of previous antagonists and I don't think that changed with their current staff. Anime original antagonists we've had in DBS were Copy Vegeta and the one from the Barry Kahn episode which were two space parasites inspired by Baby. I'm not sure how many ToP contestants they came up with but there were also a few more references to previous antagonists.

Moro is like an amalgam of several antagonists from the manga and movies and he has some henchmen for the other Z fighters to battle. Granolah is a reimagining of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans but with a different race and not another Tuffle scientist like Myuu. These don't seem too far off from the kind of ideas Toei would come up with so I don't think they would ignore the manga only to reference or reboot others.

[FortuneSSJ]

New illustration by Chikashi Kubota - DBS Super Hero Character Designer



For those that don't know him, he worked on DBS Broly and was the character designer for One Punch Man. Hes a big DB fan.

[PurestEvil]

IT'S THE MASENKO!

[Gt91]

Official Website reveals some brand-new info about DBS: SUPER HERO will be revealed during DB Games Battle Hour 2022!

Date: Feb 18 & 19

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_749.html

[PurestEvil]

Official Website reveals some brand-new info about DBS: SUPER HERO will be revealed during DB Games Battle Hour 2022!

Date: Feb 18 & 19

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_749.html

FEBRUARY?! That's two months from now!

[Mr_CINDER]

Dragon Ball(TOEI Animation) also collaborating with FILA, heres the full line up https://www.cbr.com/dragon-ball-super-fila-sneakers/, which is awesome but need more marketing.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Actually it's bizarre how people to this day pretends that side manga that's it's initial concept was to the promote the anime could serve as anything valuable to the likes of Toei and even Bandai.

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

Unless they gonna completely stop making new DB games/products in the next 2-3 years bc i don’t see how anything will continue if they don’t use new material you can only sell the same Z/GT/Super arcs/characters we’ve seen for so long before it gives diminishing to 0 returns

It’s just a lot of Radio silence for a long time wish they’d be clearer with the fandom

They can at least milk Dragon Ball Breakers for some time with Super DLCs. There are at least 2 Super DLCs that come to mind:

- Future Trunks arc DLC, with Goku Black/Future Zamasu/Fused Zamasu as the raider, taking place in the ruined apocalyptic Earth. Originally I thought it was a travesty that this wasn't included at launch, but now I realize that it's a genius move. It ensures content for the future that they can milk, and since Goku Black/Zamasu are the most popular and iconic antagonists to come out of Super, they can milk that DLC.

And thematically it fits perfectly since Goku Black/Zamasu made it his mission to hunt down every remaining mortal, there are actual shots in the anime of Goku Black just walking around the streets, looking for survivors left to kill.

- Tournament of Power DLC where you can play as a fodder fighter from one of the weak universes (like the universe of Gowasu or the universe of Love or the Furry universe) or the raider (Jiren, Toppo, Kefla, etc. all these powerful contestants who hunt down the weaklings).

So anyway they got some milk they can produce with this videogame for at least one/one and a half years

I don’t see breakers lasting that long tbh a lot of the dB game community has already written that game off I doubt they will support it. FighterZ is on its last legs and is desperately in need of rollback netcode if it’s gonna survive in the FGC for years to come. Xenoverse 3 much like the anime returning is a pipe dream.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

I've always wondered about that. Toriyama is involved and it sells better than some manga that have had anime adaptations. I'm curious what kind of ideas fans expect from Toei if they're assuming the manga will be ignored. Many of Toei's old ideas were reimaginings of previous antagonists and I don't think that changed with their current staff. Anime original antagonists we've had in DBS were Copy Vegeta and the one from the Barry Kahn episode which were two space parasites inspired by Baby. I'm not sure how many ToP contestants they came up with but there were also a few more references to previous antagonists.

Moro is like an amalgam of several antagonists from the manga and movies and he has some henchmen for the other Z fighters to battle. Granolah is a reimagining of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans but with a different race and not another Tuffle scientist like Myuu. These don't seem too far off from the kind of ideas Toei would come up with so I don't think they would ignore the manga only to reference or reboot others.

I think it goes back to one of the problems with DB now. Fans want something new that lines up with what they expect but still surprises them somehow and is also similar to the old stuff they hold dear.

What enemy haven’t Goku & co faced? except for other Gods,Angels & Demons (which they avoid like Hell for some reason). We’ve been through the Aliens,Wizards, & Androids thing many times before. Also what powerset haven’t they faced yet ?

[Mr_CINDER]

I think it goes back to one of the problems with DB now. Fans want something new that lines up with what they expect but still surprises them somehow and is also similar to the old stuff they hold dear.

What enemy haven’t Goku & co faced? except for other Gods,Angels & Demons (which they avoid like Hell for some reason). We’ve been through the Aliens,Wizards, & Androids thing many times before. Also what powerset haven’t they faced yet ?

I think that's why they are trying something new with gohan to fresh up, this movie could end up like some Pixar movie.

[HeroR]

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

I've always wondered about that. Toriyama is involved and it sells better than some manga that have had anime adaptations. I'm curious what kind of ideas fans expect from Toei if they're assuming the manga will be ignored. Many of Toei's old ideas were reimaginings of previous antagonists and I don't think that changed with their current staff. Anime original antagonists we've had in DBS were Copy Vegeta and the one from the Barry Kahn episode which were two space parasites inspired by Baby. I'm not sure how many ToP contestants they came up with but there were also a few more references to previous antagonists.

Moro is like an amalgam of several antagonists from the manga and movies and he has some henchmen for the other Z fighters to battle. Granolah is a reimagining of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans but with a different race and not another Tuffle scientist like Myuu. These don't seem too far off from the kind of ideas Toei would come up with so I don't think they would ignore the manga only to reference or reboot others.

They made most of the TOP characters. The only Toriyama designed ones were Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo, Rib, and Cali.

Also, both are loosely Baby. Copy Vegeta is pretty original in that it makes a clone and kills the original over time. Berry himself was a villain before he got possessed and a very human SOB. And the parasite didn’t really possessed Berry. It just made him worst while giving him super powers.

For the most part after GT, Toei don’t do big Dragon Ball stories. So they would most likely wait for an outline from Toriyama.

[HeroR]

Tbf they used the whole future trunks vs dabura and Bobidi thing in Kakarot which came from Toyotaro. So Bandai has shown they will use some of his ideas from the manga when they choose too. But also why have him continue the Manga if you aren’t gonna do anything with it? Your not promoting the anime since it’s no longer airing & the manga doesn’t sell that well anyways.

I've always wondered about that. Toriyama is involved and it sells better than some manga that have had anime adaptations. I'm curious what kind of ideas fans expect from Toei if they're assuming the manga will be ignored. Many of Toei's old ideas were reimaginings of previous antagonists and I don't think that changed with their current staff. Anime original antagonists we've had in DBS were Copy Vegeta and the one from the Barry Kahn episode which were two space parasites inspired by Baby. I'm not sure how many ToP contestants they came up with but there were also a few more references to previous antagonists.

Moro is like an amalgam of several antagonists from the manga and movies and he has some henchmen for the other Z fighters to battle. Granolah is a reimagining of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans but with a different race and not another Tuffle scientist like Myuu. These don't seem too far off from the kind of ideas Toei would come up with so I don't think they would ignore the manga only to reference or reboot others.

I think it goes back to one of the problems with DB now. Fans want something new that lines up with what they expect but still surprises them somehow and is also similar to the old stuff they hold dear.

What enemy haven’t Goku & co faced? except for other Gods,Angels & Demons (which they avoid like Hell for some reason). We’ve been through the Aliens,Wizards, & Androids thing many times before. Also what powerset haven’t they faced yet ?

Goku fought demons before. Demon King Piccolo and his Demon Clan and Dabura is literally the Demon King who came from the Demon Realm.

Goku fought gods. That was the whole point of Battle of Gods.

[Lord Beerus]

Official Website reveals some brand-new info about DBS: SUPER HERO will be revealed during DB Games Battle Hour 2022!

Date: Feb 18 & 19

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_749.html

FEBRUARY?! That's two months from now!

The marketing decisions made regarding this movie continue to have me flabbergasted. They've done fuck-all to give any kind of insight as to what this movie is about and generate interest for its narrative.

[Mr_CINDER]

Official Website reveals some brand-new info about DBS: SUPER HERO will be revealed during DB Games Battle Hour 2022!

Date: Feb 18 & 19

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_749.html

FEBRUARY?! That's two months from now!

The marketing decisions made regarding this movie continue to have me flabbergasted. They've done fuck-all to give any kind of insight as to what this movie is about and generate interest for its narrative.

They are also collaborating with FILA, that's good but need more marketing as I said

[ObnoxiousNamek]

I've always wondered about that. Toriyama is involved and it sells better than some manga that have had anime adaptations. I'm curious what kind of ideas fans expect from Toei if they're assuming the manga will be ignored. Many of Toei's old ideas were reimaginings of previous antagonists and I don't think that changed with their current staff. Anime original antagonists we've had in DBS were Copy Vegeta and the one from the Barry Kahn episode which were two space parasites inspired by Baby. I'm not sure how many ToP contestants they came up with but there were also a few more references to previous antagonists.

Moro is like an amalgam of several antagonists from the manga and movies and he has some henchmen for the other Z fighters to battle. Granolah is a reimagining of Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans but with a different race and not another Tuffle scientist like Myuu. These don't seem too far off from the kind of ideas Toei would come up with so I don't think they would ignore the manga only to reference or reboot others.

I think it goes back to one of the problems with DB now. Fans want something new that lines up with what they expect but still surprises them somehow and is also similar to the old stuff they hold dear.

What enemy haven’t Goku & co faced? except for other Gods,Angels & Demons (which they avoid like Hell for some reason). We’ve been through the Aliens,Wizards, & Androids thing many times before. Also what powerset haven’t they faced yet ?

Goku fought demons before. Demon King Piccolo and his Demon Clan and Dabura is literally the Demon King who came from the Demon Realm.

Goku fought gods. That was the whole point of Battle of Gods.

I’m talking about for Super mainly. Dabura wasn’t even a main villain for an arc he was a damn henchman lol. Piccolo being a demon got turned into being an Alien. & Gods not just Beerus alone since those two will probably never rematch ever.

I just wish we got new enemy types and new unique power sets that challenge Goku and Vegeta at the level they are currently at.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Official Website reveals some brand-new info about DBS: SUPER HERO will be revealed during DB Games Battle Hour 2022!

Date: Feb 18 & 19

https://en.dragon-ball-official.com/news/01_749.html

FEBRUARY?! That's two months from now!

The marketing decisions made regarding this movie continue to have me flabbergasted. They've done fuck-all to give any kind of insight as to what this movie is about and generate interest for its narrative.

I mentioned this months ago too. but people had they fanboy goggles on and weren’t trying to see reason.

Compare the marketing of Broly to DBSSH it’s night & day. Brolys marketing was in a similar vein of how you’d market a MCU movie. From the trailers,interviews,etc. This movie has only brand name going for it in every aspect.

I’ve said this before all these things are red flags that something troublesome is going on in the franchise from up top that we don’t fully know about.

[HeroR]

I think it goes back to one of the problems with DB now. Fans want something new that lines up with what they expect but still surprises them somehow and is also similar to the old stuff they hold dear.

What enemy haven’t Goku & co faced? except for other Gods,Angels & Demons (which they avoid like Hell for some reason). We’ve been through the Aliens,Wizards, & Androids thing many times before. Also what powerset haven’t they faced yet ?

Goku fought demons before. Demon King Piccolo and his Demon Clan and Dabura is literally the Demon King who came from the Demon Realm.

Goku fought gods. That was the whole point of Battle of Gods.

I’m talking about for Super mainly. Dabura wasn’t even a main villain for an arc he was a damn henchman lol. Piccolo being a demon got turned into being an Alien. & Gods not just Beerus alone since those two will probably never rematch ever.

I just wish we got new enemy types and new unique power sets that challenge Goku and Vegeta at the level they are currently at.

They still fought demons even if Dabura wasn’t a main villain and Buu is a type of demon because he’s called a Majin. So they fought ever type of enemy type outside of angels.