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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:03 pm

Bruce Wayne is super political. His very mission of trying to clean up Gotham City through his weirdly uneven means of which laws to follow and which laws to not follow are all political choices. Everything is a political statement.

Gokuu's political statements just so happen to be not driven by a knowledge of societal rules and norms. Gokuu still have a sense of right-and-wrong and follows that, even if his morality is its own kind of fucked up and uneven.
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Post by Scientist Fu » Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:23 pm

It's all over the place, all of them follow something that seems right to them and/or beneficial to them, but none of them seems to have a rational approach. They could be anything at this point.

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Scientist Fu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:23 pm It's all over the place, all of them follow something that seems right to them and/or beneficial to them, but none of them seems to have a rational approach. They could be anything at this point.
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Post by Majin Buu » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:19 pm

Most of the characters seem fundamentally disconnected from world affairs so I feel that the more amoral ones would take political stances based on what would benefit them in the moment and would have no problem switching positions the moment it's convenient to do so.

Like for instance, I could see Bulma initially being against taxing the rich because she fears how much that would hit her family's fortune, then doing a 180 on that stance because she realized she could use the Dragon Balls to magically mitigate the financial loss while publicly supporting this policy to drum up good publicity for Capsule Corp.

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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:53 pm

Majin Buu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:19 pm Like for instance, I could see Bulma initially being against taxing the rich because she fears how much that would hit her family's fortune, then doing a 180 on that stance because she realized she could use the Dragon Balls to magically mitigate the financial loss while publicly supporting this policy to drum up good publicity for Capsule Corp.
Would her politics be based around American culture regarding taxes? In Japan, taxation and the feelings people have about it might be different. Who's to say Bulma's politics are based on anything remotely American?
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Kendamu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:53 pm
Majin Buu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:19 pm Like for instance, I could see Bulma initially being against taxing the rich because she fears how much that would hit her family's fortune, then doing a 180 on that stance because she realized she could use the Dragon Balls to magically mitigate the financial loss while publicly supporting this policy to drum up good publicity for Capsule Corp.
Would her politics be based around American culture regarding taxes? In Japan, taxation and the feelings people have about it might be different. Who's to say Bulma's politics are based on anything remotely American?
The character is meant to be American (at the least the Toriyama World equivalent), her early design even had her as a blonde in a cowgirl hat. She comes from the west, her clothing is more westernized that the other characters in the beginning, and she's gun happy to the point a rifle just hangs on her wall

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Post by WittyUsername » Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:29 pm

Regarding Batman, the whole joke about him being a rich guy who beats up poor people isn’t really accurate. Most of the criminals he fights are mobsters and colorful supervillains. There are plenty of Batman stories that tackle political issues like how the 1% of Gotham screws over the rest of the city, and how there are a bunch of crooked cops who Batman has to be weary of. Ironically, Frank Miller was one of the people who popularized this trend in Batman stories.

Anyway, Goku is written in such a way that he is seemingly incapable of thinking about anything that doesn’t have to do with fighting and training, so yeah, he’d be the kind of person who wouldn’t know a thing about politics. That’s just how Toriyama wrote him.

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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:23 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:02 pm
Kendamu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:53 pm
Majin Buu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:19 pm Like for instance, I could see Bulma initially being against taxing the rich because she fears how much that would hit her family's fortune, then doing a 180 on that stance because she realized she could use the Dragon Balls to magically mitigate the financial loss while publicly supporting this policy to drum up good publicity for Capsule Corp.
Would her politics be based around American culture regarding taxes? In Japan, taxation and the feelings people have about it might be different. Who's to say Bulma's politics are based on anything remotely American?
The character is meant to be American (at the least the Toriyama World equivalent), her early design even had her as a blonde in a cowgirl hat. She comes from the west, her clothing is more westernized that the other characters in the beginning, and she's gun happy to the point a rifle just hangs on her wall
Are we assuming Toriyama is just as well-versed in the political specifics of a wealthy American teen girl scientist adventurer or did he just want to bring American stereotypes (from a Japanese POV) in while coming up with a girl from the city who comes across a Kung Fu movie stereotype from the countryside?

Which brings me to another point: Does that automatically make Krillin a Chinese citizen who believes in "one China" or was he just bringing in a Shaolin stereotype to be a foil to Goku while training with Kamesen'nin?

Also, he's a cop. Does that make him written more like an American cop or a Japanese cop? What political differences are there between the two? Do they matter to the "one China" former Shaolin/Shorinji stereotype? It can get muddy really quick if taken seriously.

I think the simpler answer is that someone who has seen a planet-sized Dragon Ball probably doesn't think about this stuff that much.
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Post by Cure Dragon 255 » Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:30 pm

Kendamu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:23 pm
MasenkoHA wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:02 pm
Kendamu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:53 pm

Would her politics be based around American culture regarding taxes? In Japan, taxation and the feelings people have about it might be different. Who's to say Bulma's politics are based on anything remotely American?
The character is meant to be American (at the least the Toriyama World equivalent), her early design even had her as a blonde in a cowgirl hat. She comes from the west, her clothing is more westernized that the other characters in the beginning, and she's gun happy to the point a rifle just hangs on her wall
Are we assuming Toriyama is just as well-versed in the political specifics of a wealthy American teen girl scientist adventurer or did he just want to bring American stereotypes (from a Japanese POV) in while coming up with a girl from the city who comes across a Kung Fu movie stereotype from the countryside?

Which brings me to another point: Does that automatically make Krillin a Chinese citizen who believes in "one China" or was he just bringing in a Shaolin stereotype to be a foil to Goku while training with Kamesen'nin?

Also, he's a cop. Does that make him written more like an American cop or a Japanese cop? What political differences are there between the two? Do they matter to the "one China" former Shaolin/Shorinji stereotype? It can get muddy really quick if taken seriously.

I think the simpler answer is that someone who has seen a planet-sized Dragon Ball probably doesn't think about this stuff that much.
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Re: What would be the political stance of DB characters

Post by Majin Buu » Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 pm

Kendamu wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:53 pm Would her politics be based around American culture regarding taxes? In Japan, taxation and the feelings people have about it might be different. Who's to say Bulma's politics are based on anything remotely American?
I'm going off of her personality and my own personal political context. I think that's all we can really go on here without an extensive knowledge of Japanese politics given the speculative nature of the thread.

That being said, your questions sparked my curiosity, so I looked into it and found this article published in 2022:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecaf.12524

To quote the abstract:
This article is based on representative surveys conducted in China, Japan, South Korea and Vietnam as part of the ongoing The Rich in Public Opinion project. While in Western countries 28 per cent of respondents say it is important for them to become rich, in the surveyed Asian countries the figure is 58 per cent. Social envy directed at the rich is much lower in Japan, South Korea and Vietnam than in Europe and the United States, while in China it is at a similar level to that in some Western countries. In particular, popular attitudes towards the rich are far more positive in Japan, South Korea and Vietnam than in Western countries, while in China they are more similar to those in Europe.
Looking through the article, lower income people in Japan aren't as envious of the rich as those in Western countries (or China), Japanese people list many of the same types of people that deserve to be rich as those in Western countries and rank them similarly (both view entrepreneurs and the self-employed as the most deserving), and Japanese people think the rich should pay higher tax rates than the poor, but opinions are split on how high that tax rate should be.

So based on that, I don't think my speculation on Bulma is necessarily incongruent with Japanese sentiments. If anything, this would make her plan more likely to succeed since most people over there don't seem to viscerally hate the rich; and applying that Japanese lens to Dragon Ball's Earth means most people would be more likely to trust her than be suspicious of her. At worst, she might alienate some people who think she's giving away too much of her money to taxes.

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Re: What would be the political stance of DB characters

Post by Majin Man 101 » Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:19 pm

Goku and his family would all be conservatives. Goku and his desire to test himself in combat is the pinnacle of traditional masculinity. Chi-Chi comes from a similar lineage as her father was a tribal warrior. Goku and Chi-Chi enjoy the simple life out in the country. Chi-Chi and her yearning to be a traditional wife is shown, despite her growing up in a culture of warriors.

Gohan's yearning to learn more about the wider world is by no means based in rebellion to his upbringing. His desire instilled in him at a young age to want to become a scholar is all based in him wanting to honor his mother's wishes, as his mother wants the best for him and what she thinks will help him succeed in that world. All the while, Gohan recognizes that fighting in warfare is necessary when the occasion arrives, and he has to put off his scholarly pursuits. Goten, raised without a father naturally took on a more worldly viewpoint as he spent much of his time in the big city with Trunks.

For Vegeta and his family...

Starting with Bulma, I think her views would be more along the lines of an Elon Musk, primarily left leaning, but very free market oriented, which naturally brings her back into alignment with the right. She is socially very liberal, but I suspect that the capsule corporation tries to maintain a neutral stance on political issues, as their products are used worldwide, and they do not want to risk alienating any part of their consumer base. Bulma is also one of those girls that we all know in real life that will tell people in public that she supports the LBGTQ, but in private talks about how annoying they are. (As demonstrated by her reaction to General Blue) Bulma also is a bit more crude, and she knows how to take a joke.

Vegeta supports the traditional monarchy. He would be in favor of dictatorial rule of the planet. Vegeta would take right wing views to the extreme, as he would support an entire culture based upon strength in combat alone. This would also translate into an aggressive supportive stance on free market economy, and he would even appreciate monopolies. (Seemingly just like the Capsule Corporation)

Trunks takes on similar views to his mother, although he is a bit more proper.

Piccolo thinks very logically, and as a matter of fact, so I think he would come to very centrist conclusions, with an ever so slight bend to the right, however, pointing out the hypocrisies and the inconsistencies within the right-wing logic.

None of the characters strike me as being outwardly left, with the possible exception of Oolong. Oolong is a communist through and through, and this is shown in his desire to want to take and take from those around him, yet never give anything in return. Socialism-For the people to seize the means of production. (By people-it actually means state) Because the people cannot independently seize the means of production because it would be chaotic, and so naturally a government will be formed. So, the actual definition of socialism- (For the state to seize the means of production). Oolong in his first attempt at evil wants to kidnap all the women and force them into implied sexual slavery/forced labor so he can sit around and do nothing while reaping all the benefits. He is also shown to be lazy which is the true intention of communism since communism was formed to destroy human civilization. (Read Marx) (Read Hitler) in order to learn more about their ideologies of socialism and national socialism and want their ultimate goals really were. It's quite disturbing.

I think this is good enough for now. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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Majin Man 101 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:19 pm Goku and his family would all be conservatives. Goku and his desire to test himself in combat is the pinnacle of traditional masculinity. Chi-Chi comes from a similar lineage as her father was a tribal warrior. Goku and Chi-Chi enjoy the simple life out in the country. Chi-Chi and her yearning to be a traditional wife is shown, despite her growing up in a culture of warriors.
Chi Chi as a conservative? Absolutely, 1000 percent. She's very much a " A woman's place is at home and in the kitchen and a man's place is out of the home providing. No sex before marriage, women who dress in skimpy clothing devalue themselves, people who are poor are lazy etc etc etc" kind of gal

Goku as a conservative though? Nah, he's completely politically oblivious and completely removed from societal expectations. His love for fighting and wanting to test his strength isn't seen as "Because I am man and that's what men do" he has no qualms with viewing Kale and Caulifa as his equals and doesn't assume they should be more like traditional woman. He's a " just go with it " guy. My "wife" wants to stay home and cook me yummy food and make our sons study all day? Cool. These girl Saiyans want to fight me? Cool. He'd probably be dumbfounded if you asked him anything about the climate crisis, wealth inequality, human rights etc. He's not liberal or progressive or centrist or conservative he's Goku.

Gohan's yearning to learn more about the wider world is by no means based in rebellion to his upbringing. His desire instilled in him at a young age to want to become a scholar is all based in him wanting to honor his mother's wishes, as his mother wants the best for him and what she thinks will help him succeed in that world. All the while, Gohan recognizes that fighting in warfare is necessary when the occasion arrives, and he has to put off his scholarly pursuits. Goten, raised without a father naturally took on a more worldly viewpoint as he spent much of his time in the big city with Trunks.
Gohan always seemed a classic example of "I sent you to college to get a good paying job not become some kind of liberal". Being an academic he's going to have a lot more progressive viewpoints than his mother.

Goten's viewpoints are "Well Trunks said this" and Trunks probably got all viewpoints from playing Fortnite and watching YouTube videos

Starting with Bulma, I think her views would be more along the lines of an Elon Musk, primarily left leaning, but very free market oriented, which naturally brings her back into alignment with the right.
I'm genuinely curious what supposed left wing policies Musk stood for but Kanzenshuu really isn't the place for that.

She is socially very liberal, but I suspect that the capsule corporation tries to maintain a neutral stance on political issues, as their products are used worldwide, and they do not want to risk alienating any part of their consumer base. Bulma is also one of those girls that we all know in real life that will tell people in public that she supports the LBGTQ, but in private talks about how annoying they are. (As demonstrated by her reaction to General Blue) Bulma also is a bit more crude, and she knows how to take a joke.
"Socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is how I think Bulma would see herself as well. I wouldn't use her calling General Blue "Okama" when she was 16 against her as people's viewpoints can evolve. Regardless she's definitely a "profit over people" kind of girlie and any liberal beliefs or causes she purportedly champions will go straight out the window if it conflicts with Capsule Corp's bottom dollar
Vegeta supports the traditional monarchy. He would be in favor of dictatorial rule of the planet. Vegeta would take right wing views to the extreme, as he would support an entire culture based upon strength in combat alone. This would also translate into an aggressive supportive stance on free market economy, and he would even appreciate monopolies. (Seemingly just like the Capsule Corporation)
Vegeta believing in "might makes right?" Absolutely. No duh. Vegeta giving any kind of shit about "the free market" lol no as long as his wife has a high tech gravity room for him to train in he has no fucks to give.
. He is also shown to be lazy which is the true intention of communism since communism was formed to destroy human civilization. (Read Marx) (Read Hitler) in order to learn more about their ideologies of socialism and national socialism and want their ultimate goals really were. It's quite disturbing.

I think this is good enough for now. Please let me know if you have any questions.
I have no interest in defending Communism but you know who was the furthest thing from a Communist?

Hitler.

There's a lot things here that I disagree with but I'm trying to keep it related to Dragon Ball
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Majin Man 101 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:19 pmHe is also shown to be lazy which is the true intention of communism since communism was formed to destroy human civilization. (Read Marx) (Read Hitler) in order to learn more about their ideologies of socialism and national socialism and want their ultimate goals really were. It's quite disturbing.
Interesting. Can you give me the book and page number where Marx said this?

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MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:38 pm
Majin Man 101 wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:19 pm Goku and his family would all be conservatives. Goku and his desire to test himself in combat is the pinnacle of traditional masculinity. Chi-Chi comes from a similar lineage as her father was a tribal warrior. Goku and Chi-Chi enjoy the simple life out in the country. Chi-Chi and her yearning to be a traditional wife is shown, despite her growing up in a culture of warriors.
Chi Chi as a conservative? Absolutely, 1000 percent. She's very much a " A woman's place is at home and in the kitchen and a man's place is out of the home providing. No sex before marriage, women who dress in skimpy clothing devalue themselves, people who are poor are lazy etc etc etc" kind of gal

Goku as a conservative though? Nah, he's completely politically oblivious and completely removed from societal expectations. His love for fighting and wanting to test his strength isn't seen as "Because I am man and that's what men do" he has no qualms with viewing Kale and Caulifa as his equals and doesn't assume they should be more like traditional woman. He's a " just go with it " guy. My "wife" wants to stay home and cook me yummy food and make our sons study all day? Cool. These girl Saiyans want to fight me? Cool. He'd probably be dumbfounded if you asked him anything about the climate crisis, wealth inequality, human rights etc. He's not liberal or progressive or centrist or conservative he's Goku.

Gohan's yearning to learn more about the wider world is by no means based in rebellion to his upbringing. His desire instilled in him at a young age to want to become a scholar is all based in him wanting to honor his mother's wishes, as his mother wants the best for him and what she thinks will help him succeed in that world. All the while, Gohan recognizes that fighting in warfare is necessary when the occasion arrives, and he has to put off his scholarly pursuits. Goten, raised without a father naturally took on a more worldly viewpoint as he spent much of his time in the big city with Trunks.
Gohan always seemed a classic example of "I sent you to college to get a good paying job not become some kind of liberal". Being an academic he's going to have a lot more progressive viewpoints than his mother.

Goten's viewpoints are "Well Trunks said this" and Trunks probably got all viewpoints from playing Fortnite and watching YouTube videos

Starting with Bulma, I think her views would be more along the lines of an Elon Musk, primarily left leaning, but very free market oriented, which naturally brings her back into alignment with the right.
I'm genuinely curious what supposed left wing policies Musk stood for but Kanzenshuu really isn't the place for that.

She is socially very liberal, but I suspect that the capsule corporation tries to maintain a neutral stance on political issues, as their products are used worldwide, and they do not want to risk alienating any part of their consumer base. Bulma is also one of those girls that we all know in real life that will tell people in public that she supports the LBGTQ, but in private talks about how annoying they are. (As demonstrated by her reaction to General Blue) Bulma also is a bit more crude, and she knows how to take a joke.
"Socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is how I think Bulma would see herself as well. I wouldn't use her calling General Blue "Okama" when she was 16 against her as people's viewpoints can evolve. Regardless she's definitely a "profit over people" kind of girlie and any liberal beliefs or causes she purportedly champions will go straight out the window if it conflicts with Capsule Corp's bottom dollar
Vegeta supports the traditional monarchy. He would be in favor of dictatorial rule of the planet. Vegeta would take right wing views to the extreme, as he would support an entire culture based upon strength in combat alone. This would also translate into an aggressive supportive stance on free market economy, and he would even appreciate monopolies. (Seemingly just like the Capsule Corporation)
Vegeta believing in "might makes right?" Absolutely. No duh. Vegeta giving any kind of shit about "the free market" lol no as long as his wife has a high tech gravity room for him to train in he has no fucks to give.
. He is also shown to be lazy which is the true intention of communism since communism was formed to destroy human civilization. (Read Marx) (Read Hitler) in order to learn more about their ideologies of socialism and national socialism and want their ultimate goals really were. It's quite disturbing.

I think this is good enough for now. Please let me know if you have any questions.
I have no interest in defending Communism but you know who was the furthest thing from a Communist?

Hitler.

There's a lot things here that I disagree with but I'm trying to keep it related to Dragon Ball
Good feedback and arguments given here. I think that overall I probably went way to deep, but this thread put all of these ideas in my head.

I so desperately wanted to try and find a way to compare some of the characters to socialism or national socialism, but even the most evil enemies and most flawed characters in Dragon Ball can’t even compare to how evil the nazis were. Alas I think I strayed too far from Dragon Ball.

However, Hitlers national socialism and communism are very similar, more than historians want to admit or they just don’t know… Hitler wrote his auto biography to state his stupid vision for the world, and in it made the statement

“hey I’m not a communist because I’m racist too, so please don’t get us mixed up because otherwise we are pretty similar .”

Paraphrasing? Yes I am but it really is a fascinating read.


Also can anybody remind me of president dog man is the king or was he president I don’t remember. And if so wasn’t he the king of the whole world or something? I need to do a rewatch I can’t quite remember.

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Goku would wonder if a political party would have a tasty feast.

Chi-Ci's definitely a dumb slack-jawed yokel with a Facebook feed full of Fox News links, right wing "memes," and copypastas about gendered bathrooms. Also would be one of those ladies in the Facebook mom groups calling new mothers failures if they aren't breastfeeding their child until they're in middle shchool

Bulma would be the ultra neoliberal #girlboss, duh. Is eventually disgraced when that article about Capsule Corp's toxic workplace full of offensive jokes and bullying that she actively fostered and participated in gets published and has to apologize to the anthropomorphic animal community if they were offended by some of the jokes that were quoted verbatim in the piece. Off-color jokes are not a reflection of her character!

Vegeta strikes me as somebody who has no political views but would look down on the homeless and become a massive NIMBY if compelled enough

Gohan would be THAT annoying lefty. One day he's gonna fuck around and feed Goku some vegan chicken and get disowned. Piccolo pretends to listen to Gohan's impassioned rants but couldn't care less.

Android 17 has the same politics as Gohan but without the annoying parts.

Android 18 votes for whoever's gonna lower her taxes.

Krillin's in the neoliberal Bulma camp but less insincere and more naive. He's "improving the police system from the inside!"

Future Trunks is a super socialist, but...

...Present Trunks' YouTube algorithm is an Andrew Tate fiesta, I'm afraid. He's always texting Goten links to some crazy conspiracy theory, which Goten screenshots and shares to his Trunks-less groupchat all "Look at what this fucker is saying this time lmao" to a parade of "😂😂😂😂"

Yamcha is just as likely to say "We need to put an end to toxic masculinity!" with complete sincerity as he is to say "Sheesh you can't say ANYTHING these days huh???" Basically every confused but well-meaning Gen Xer

The F in Frieza is for fascism!

Master Roshi just doesn't want his porn getting taken away
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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Post by MasenkoHA » Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:12 pm

jjgp1112 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:41 pm
Chi-Ci's definitely a dumb slack-jawed yokel with a Facebook feed full of Fox News links, right wing "memes," and copypastas about gendered bathrooms. Also would be one of those ladies in the Facebook mom groups calling new mothers failures if they aren't breastfeeding their child until they're 5
As much as I like my take of Chi Chi being stuck in the 1950s, MAGA (or you know the Mount Paozu equivalent) Info Wars conspiracy nut Chi Chi is my new favorite take


Gohan would be THAT annoying lefty. One day he's gonna fuck around and feed Goku some vegan chicken and get disowned. Piccolo pretends to listen to Gohan's impassioned rants but couldn't care less.
Goku: I can look past you wanting to be a scholar instead of a fighter, but I draw the line at you feeding me fake fucking chicken. I have no son *pause* oh wait I have one son.

And 100 percent Gohan is ranting to Piccolo about systemic prejudice against the animal people community or wealth inequality in West City and Piccolo is just like "Yep. Hmm hmm Gohan. Sure."
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...Present Trunks' YouTube algorithm is an Andrew Tate fiesta, I'm afraid. He's always texting Goten links to some crazy conspiracy theory, which Goten screenshots and shares to his Trunks-less groupchat all "Look at what this fucker is saying this time lmao" to a parade of "😂😂😂😂"
I like the idea of Goten just going for whatever crazy far right ideology crap Trunks tells him and nodding his head along "So true Trunks, female martial artist are ruining the martial arts society and feminizing the Tenkaichi Budokai!" but this also works.

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:32 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 10:12 pm
jjgp1112 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:41 pm
Chi-Ci's definitely a dumb slack-jawed yokel with a Facebook feed full of Fox News links, right wing "memes," and copypastas about gendered bathrooms. Also would be one of those ladies in the Facebook mom groups calling new mothers failures if they aren't breastfeeding their child until they're 5
As much as I like my take of Chi Chi being stuck in the 1950s, MAGA (or you know the Mount Paozu equivalent) Info Wars conspiracy nut Chi Chi is my new favorite take
I'd imagine it's a mix of both. She's one of those people you find down south that are exceedingly nice and friendly yet have backwards ass views. She's definitely cooked Rulah and Chok some nice meals and then when they leave she warns Goten not to let them suck him into the wrong crowd Image
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Re: What would be the political stance of DB characters

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Aug 03, 2023 10:08 am

jjgp1112 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:41 pm ...Present Trunks' YouTube algorithm is an Andrew Tate fiesta, I'm afraid. He's always texting Goten links to some crazy conspiracy theory, which Goten screenshots and shares to his Trunks-less groupchat all "Look at what this fucker is saying this time lmao" to a parade of "😂😂😂😂"
Finally, a Goten take I can be on board with. The teen Goten portrayed in the pre-SH mini arc is definitely this type of fella. A far cry from his previous naive, sheep-like iteration.

jjgp1112 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:41 pm Yamcha is just as likely to say "We need to put an end to toxic masculinity!" with complete sincerity as he is to say "Sheesh you can't say ANYTHING these days huh???" Basically every confused but well-meaning Gen Xer
I'm weak lol. And Puar nodding along.

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Re: What would be the political stance of DB characters

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:23 am

MasenkoHA wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:38 pm I'm genuinely curious what supposed left wing policies Musk stood for but Kanzenshuu really isn't the place for that.
At the risk of getting into that whole can of worms, Musk did try to pass himself off as this cool progressive guy who’s cool with LGBTQ+ people and cares about the environment for a while. It wasn’t really until around 2019 or 2020 when he shifted to pandering more towards the far-right, presumably because more and more progressives were saying unflattering things about him. Basically, Musk is a manchild who craves validation, and will align with whichever side is willing to praise him the most.

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Re: What would be the political stance of DB characters

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:23 am

Goku - Clueless about anything and everything politics. Some have said Conservative, but I'd disagree. He likes fighting because it's fun, not because it represents masculine ideals. He also didn't know what kissing is, whether it's between two people of the opposite sex or the same sex wouldn't make a difference to him, he doesn't understand either

Chi-Chi - Conservative, values traditional family ideals

Vegeta - Reformed space nazi, but without interest in Earth politics unless it affects Bulma and Capsule Corp

Bulma - Socially Liberal, fiscally Conservative

Gohan - Liberal, progressive socialist

Videl - Supports whatever Gohan does

Trunks - Liberal, ally to whatever the movement of the day is

Goten - Follows whatever Trunks is doing

Piccolo - Apolitical

Tenshinhan - Apolitical

Yamcha - Liberal, specifically with regard to feminist issues

Krillin - Centrist, would be skeptical about both the right and the left and where either could go too far

#18 - Similar to Chi-Chi in terms of a mother's place being in the home but wouldn't be opposed to social change as long as it doesn't involve her

Mr Satan - Very much Liberal, all for social equality, protecting everyone's rights, giving money to the poor, etc

Freeza - Textbook example of a Fascist
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