Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
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Seeing Freeza cower in fear of said kid would be hilarious.
Yes, let's give Freeza god ki. Because, as we all know, gods were a big deal in the manga. Maybe if they perform the ritual correctly, he can almost rival Kaioshin! Oh wait, Kaioshin fused. Never mind. He could rival Piccolo, then. What an amazing threat! They might even need Goten to deal with him.
Yes, let's give Freeza god ki. Because, as we all know, gods were a big deal in the manga. Maybe if they perform the ritual correctly, he can almost rival Kaioshin! Oh wait, Kaioshin fused. Never mind. He could rival Piccolo, then. What an amazing threat! They might even need Goten to deal with him.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Is it really any worse than Goku going from below Freeza in base, to being able to fight 70% power Beerus (which could arguably be above Vegetto, who could arguably be in the same tier as SS4)?singsing wrote:First transformation = 530k -> 1 million = 2x
Second transformation = 1 million -> 2 million = 2x
Third transformation = 2 million -> 120 million = 60x
Fourth transformation = 120 million -> ??? Over 9000x. Sounds legit.
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Well, in Goku's place, it was an unnatural powerup. From what I'm understanding, you guys are saying Freeza's going to come up with a new transformation that would power him up even more than the SSG ritual did to Goku, even though all of his transformations are natural and self made to restrict his own power. I don't understand how he just "finds a new form" unless it's also some magical unnatural form. If it's like his organic regular forms, hayell no, that'd make for a terrible plot.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Is it really any worse than Goku going from below Freeza in base, to being able to fight 70% power Beerus (which could arguably be above Vegetto, who could arguably be in the same tier as SS4)?singsing wrote:First transformation = 530k -> 1 million = 2x
Second transformation = 1 million -> 2 million = 2x
Third transformation = 2 million -> 120 million = 60x
Fourth transformation = 120 million -> ??? Over 9000x. Sounds legit.
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The new transformation, if it even goes to Freeza, could be a "Super" form like Coola had or it may end up just being a god form for him. Heck, maybe it's both stacked on top of each other and the proportional increase has him surpass Whis? It may end up being absurd, it may end up making total sense. The point is, we don't know what it is right now. We, sadly, just have to wait and see.singsing wrote:Well, in Goku's place, it was an unnatural powerup. From what I'm understanding, you guys are saying Freeza's going to come up with a new transformation that would power him up even more than the SSG ritual did to Goku, even though all of his transformations are natural and self made to restrict his own power.
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Considering the movie is based off the song, I was listening to it and the lyrics say "GODLY TRANSFIGURATION." If that's anything to go by, it's possible that part of the film is based off the lyrics. That specific lyric is referring to Freeza.
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Why wait when we can bitch? I just ran into this ancient piece of greatness, and I have a burning desire to repost it.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:We, sadly, just have to wait and see.singsing wrote:Well, in Goku's place, it was an unnatural powerup. From what I'm understanding, you guys are saying Freeza's going to come up with a new transformation that would power him up even more than the SSG ritual did to Goku, even though all of his transformations are natural and self made to restrict his own power.
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More random thoughts:
The lack of ssj; could the second wish have zapped/sealed it away?
The lack of ssj; could the second wish have zapped/sealed it away?
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That reminds me. I'm somewhat excited to see what Rocketman's the mighty Namekian Warrior's thoughts are. Hopefully they will be negative.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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My idea would be like this:Chuquita wrote:More random thoughts:
The lack of ssj; could the second wish have zapped/sealed it away?
1st wish - Revival of Freezer
2nd wish - Freeza's immortality
3rd wish - Zeal/lock SSj/SsjGod
That would still leave Piccolo's super-namekian power.
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I like it. Can see that as the wishes and order of them. No access to their ki attacks in the Playdia game was difficult, can only imagine not having access to their transformations at all.soulnova wrote:My idea would be like this:Chuquita wrote:More random thoughts:
The lack of ssj; could the second wish have zapped/sealed it away?
1st wish - Revival of Freezer
2nd wish - Freeza's immortality
3rd wish - Zeal/lock SSj/SsjGod
That would still leave Piccolo's super-namekian power.
That could definitely bring despair.
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Has anyone considered that the second wish might be to make others weak as opposed to just making Frieza strong?
Also the whole "BUH FRIEZA IS A WEAKLING" comments crack me up. I guarantee you the writers are aware of this perception.
Also the whole "BUH FRIEZA IS A WEAKLING" comments crack me up. I guarantee you the writers are aware of this perception.
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The Dragon Balls can't affect anyone stronger than their creator.Has anyone considered that the second wish might be to make others weak as opposed to just making Freeza strong?
And Buu, Kibitoshin, base Gotenks, base Vegetto, base Gogeta, 17, 18, 16...That would still leave Piccolo's super-namekian power.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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The fact the Beerus is on the poster means either he had a Cameo or Frieza is going to his level. I'm holding out Beerus has to become directly involved as Beerus vs Frieza just screams epic based on how Beerus viewed Frieza.
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Shenlon can't make Goku weaker. I think what's going to happen is Freeza's race is going to come looking for him from another universe, find out from the remnants of Freeza's army that he was killed by a Saiyan while trying to collect the dragon balls, and then head to Earth to resurrect Freeza and perform a God ritual so he can have revenge. Freeza will probably seek out the most powerful ki on Earth thinking it's Goku, but will be surprised to find Vegeta insteadradrappy wrote:Has anyone considered that the second wish might be to make others weak as opposed to just making Freeza strong?
Also the whole "BUH Freeza IS A WEAKLING" comments crack me up. I guarantee you the writer's are aware of this perception.
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I-on't care. It has some truth to it. As of now he's outclassed by everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, the Saiyans, the last nine antagonists of the canon series(Androids 16-19, Cell, Dabura, and the Buus), and even weak ass humans like Dumbch--I mean Yamcha, even if he retired from fighting.radrappy wrote:
Also the whole "BUH Freeza IS A WEAKLING" comments crack me up. I guarantee you the writers are aware of this perception.
Toriyama has to do a lot more than a godly ki ass-pull on Frieza to win me over on this one.
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D'oh . Still, the idea of Freeza's henchmen still hanging out in parts of the universe is pretty cool even though it's been touched upon in the series already.Chuquita wrote:http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2014/11/17/v- ... itle-date/
The henchmen bring him back.
As for what the second wish might be, maybe Freeza will finally get his wish for immortality. Though has it ever been mentioned if such a wish is even possible on the dragonballs? I feel like considering the other limitations they have, immortality might be a bit too much to ask for. In the case that it were granted, though, note that immortality doesn't equal being unable to feel pain. Would be hilarious to see everyone whaling on an immortal Freeza and him just kinda wishing for death at that point.
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Or just Goku KKx2RandomGuy96 wrote:The Dragon Balls can't affect anyone stronger than their creator.Has anyone considered that the second wish might be to make others weak as opposed to just making Freeza strong?
And Buu, Kibitoshin, base Gotenks, base Vegetto, base Gogeta, 17, 18, 16...That would still leave Piccolo's super-namekian power.
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If Freeza becomes immortal then I guess that's another reason GT is going to be ignore again (which is okay by me) unless they find away to kill him off in later movies.
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I sorta hope he gets killed off in favor of GT. I don't care, I like at least 80% of GT(Baby, Super 17, and Shadow Dragons) and the tag team fight with Goku in Hell was fun to watch and it fit well with the story too, even though the Super 17 saga wasn't all that.Hellspawn28 wrote:If Freeza becomes immortal then I guess that's another reason GT is going to be ignore again (which is okay by me) unless they find away to kill him off in later movies.
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It's more likely Goten as he doesn't possess the body frame that Gohan has. The poster implies this.Doctor. wrote:That's not Yamcha, he's missing his scars.Scarz wrote:The only thing that really upsets me is that Krillin is bald again and Yamcha cut his hair...
It's Gohan or Goten.
On the other note, it seems to me that Freeza has been anointed as the main antagonist of the series. Not Cell nor Boo, but Freeza. It could be that Toriyama has rekindled his interest in the series and has become fond of Freeza. If you think about it, in either anime or manga, in each arc, Freeza has been either indirectly mentioned or appeared in them. Even after his death, his legacy carries as far as it could. In DBO, it's stated that his remnant empire has attacked the Earth. It was obvious that his reign has not only impact on Northern Galaxy, but the entire universe. Even Kaioshin and Hakaishin Beerus were aware of his existence. Now Toriyama again uses Freeza in the new story as if it was a continuation of serialization.
About how revived Freeza brings the deepest of despair, the plot will require him to. Shenron after all offers two (or three) wishes. One would be obviously revive Freeza. Who knows what the other wish will be. To be honest, the last time the series truly ever felt despair was Trunks TV special and last few episodes of Dragon Ball GT.
On the last note, I really like Tadayoshi Yamamuro's drawing on the poster. It looks much better than 2013 Dragon Ball Z poster. Not sure why JulieYBM is critical on this. Both Gokû and Vegeta look about the same as his current style.
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