Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
Goten was Vegeta's son all along
Since Goku was dead, Vegeta wanted to raise himself a new one. He just couldn't live knowing he could never fight his eternal rival again. Then he confronted the Briefs family for a brainwashing device to use on Gohan and Chichi to make them believe that Goten was always a part of their family.
Keikaku doori.
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Lord Beerus wrote:I haven't seen any modern day official Dragon Ball art have Final Form Freeza with muscle eyebrows.
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It's not as noticeable as in his 100% and golden forms, but his eyebrows should be completely "flat".
I don't really notice it in the sketch that Toyotarō did but the screenshot from the movie is quite guilty in that regard. But that's what inconsistent animation can produce.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:I haven't seen any modern day official Dragon Ball art have Final Form Freeza with muscle eyebrows.
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It's not as noticeable as in his 100% and golden forms, but his eyebrows should be completely "flat".
I don't really notice it in the sketch that Toyotarō did but the screenshot from the movie is quite guilty in that regard. But that's what inconsistent animation can produce.
It's not really inaccurate, but I'll agree that I don't particularly like it. Though Toriyama did start to give Freeza said brows as the chapters passed in the manga (yes, before 100% power). Freeza's true form's debute and the way he is drawn prior to bulking up are super different.
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Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)
While on the topic of Toriyama drawing Freeza differently, any particular reason Freeza's right eye in the manga is always more outlined than his left?
Doctor. wrote:While on the topic of Toriyama drawing Freeza differently, any particular reason Freeza's right eye in the manga is always more outlined than his left?
I have a boring guess. Maybe whoever inked it starts inking the left eye first when there's more ink in the pen resulting in a slightly thicker line.
AjayLikesGaming wrote:Alright, just finished watching the Imagine-Nation special on Fukkatsu no F
Moreover, Yamamuro struggled to visualise Toriyama's idea of hell as the description was so alien to him. He eventually based it on a lake in Austria called "The Green Lake".
AjayLikesGaming wrote:
The Producer of the film, Horihiro Hayashida, mentioned that the theme of the film was "going back to the source". He revealed that he came up with the idea for bringing back Freeza to fight Goku once again. Strangely, he then talks about how he wanted this film to be all Toriyama.
That's weird. Hayashida himself stated in this interview that it was Toriyama-sensei’s idea to bring Freeza back to life...
Javaki wrote:That's weird. Hayashida himself stated in this interview that it was Toriyama-sensei’s idea to bring Freeza back to life...
Yeah, it's strange. Considering the amount of misinformation in the narration, I wouldn't take a lot of what was said particularly seriously. It may well be a mistranslation for all we know.
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's not supposed to be different though. That's just how Toriyama has been drawing Goku's hair recently (though that image specifically is from Yamamuro's version of the form, it's basically traced off Toriyama's).
Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but isn't this drawing have Oda drawing Goku and Toriyama drew Luffy?
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's not supposed to be different though. That's just how Toriyama has been drawing Goku's hair recently (though that image specifically is from Yamamuro's version of the form, it's basically traced off Toriyama's).
Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but isn't this drawing have Oda drawing Goku and Toriyama drew Luffy?
naw, that's definitely an Oda drawn Luffy and a Toriyama drawn Son Goku.
I also have this recorded at home on my Sky box, so once I'm back, I'll be sure to record a high quality version of this as opposed to this low quality web rip. That won't be until mid-May, though.
Thanks a lot man !
But wow , I would cover that episode for free lol ! The seemed to try and be excited but really not seem to know or care much about the movie/franchise
(Yes I know not everyone watches it)
Just saying that I would've been hyping to the MAX and going insane LOL
Javaki wrote:That's weird. Hayashida himself stated in this interview that it was Toriyama-sensei’s idea to bring Freeza back to life...
Having seen this interview earlier today, judging by the incorrect information given, I would personally take those interviews with a huge grain of salt.
We all know it was Toriyama-Sensei's idea, as was the entire Story, and script.
I can't believe how much cooler Luffy looks in comparison to Goku in that image.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
