Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Kendamu]

I care; it's interesting to see what someone who doesn't care about Dragon Ball anymore thinks about what it currently is like. I'm sorry if you can't appreciate it for that.

Actually yeah, asking causal/ex-fans has kept be more open minded about the film than I otherwise would have. It why I usually stay away form this thread lol. Just yesterday I told a store clerk about the film because he saw my DB shirt and he got super excited, made me a bit jealous as I could never be that happy. Knowing how others with a passing or previous interest feel helps me keep my dislike in check.

The perspectives of fans that aren't so super hardcore, but show just as much love as I do, are what keep my expectations reasonable. The vibe I go for is to be happy, but never satisfied. I always want to see improvement in myself as well as the things that inspire me. I do take the time to appreciate what we already have, though.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Goku had this this problem before. He can easily get cocky. BoG shows this when he transforms to SSJ3 to fight Beerus. It comes with getting huge power ups. Just that now, he thinks Freeza is finished. He thinks that he doesn't need guard anymore. Again the laser is a piercing kind of attack which is stronger than blast type or normal type of attack. It isn't that jarring. We were told that Goku got shot through the heart because he lowers his guard. That's it.

People also need to keep in mind that different being have different body type. Doesn't mean that everybody's resistance before learning to control ki is the same.

Why couldnt he sense Sorbet behind him or the ring's energy being shot at him? Even if he was off guard, he'd still flinch knowing something was behind him. They've always done that in the anime.

[Sparko33]

Amidst all this talk about Sorbet catching Goku off guard or not being sensed by him and being able to damage him despite the power level gap, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the even bigger plot-hole of Vegeta dying by Earth's destruction. I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living as shown in the saiyan arc before he came on earth, and occasionally did so while in the middle of space; so now somehow he can't breathe there anymore?

Also, riddle me this: what would have happened if Vegeta's Galick Gun would have overpowered Goku's Kamehameha (Kaio-ken enhanced) wave when they fought on earth? Wouldn't it have destroyed earth? what would he have done if that happened? Earth would be destroyed and so would he (by this logic), so whats the point of facing earth when unleashing the wave? So many plot holes left un-answered...

[White Oni]

Amidst all this talk about Sorbet catching Goku off guard or not being sensed by him and being able to damage him despite the power level gap, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the even bigger plot-hole of Vegeta dying by Earth's destruction. I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living as shown in the saiyan arc before he came on earth, and occasionally did so while in the middle of space; so now somehow he can't breathe there anymore?

Also, riddle me this: what would have happened if Vegeta's Galick Gun would have overpowered Goku's Kamehameha (Kaio-ken enhanced) wave when they fought on earth? Wouldn't it have destroyed earth? what would he have done if that happened? Earth would be destroyed and so would he (by this logic), so whats the point of facing earth when unleashing the wave? So many plot holes left un-answered...

1) please google "plot hole"

2) Vegeta has never breathed in space, that was filler. And vegeta WAS aware that he would die if he won the beam struggle, that's what makes his character in that saga so crazy, he'd rather die than be out done by a low class warrior, remember, at the time, vegeta believed he was the strongest in the universe. When AT retconed vegeta's origin and introduced the powerful characters in the namek saga, it was accepted that vegeta was either a liar or delusional but during the time AT was writing the Saiyan saga, vegeta's actions made sense...

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Amidst all this talk about Sorbet catching Goku off guard or not being sensed by him and being able to damage him despite the power level gap, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the even bigger plot-hole of Vegeta dying by Earth's destruction. I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living as shown in the saiyan arc before he came on earth, and occasionally did so while in the middle of space; so now somehow he can't breathe there anymore?

Also, riddle me this: what would have happened if Vegeta's Galick Gun would have overpowered Goku's Kamehameha (Kaio-ken enhanced) wave when they fought on earth? Wouldn't it have destroyed earth? what would he have done if that happened? Earth would be destroyed and so would he (by this logic), so whats the point of facing earth when unleashing the wave? So many plot holes left un-answered...

I think what makes less sense would be the threat of blowing up the Earth seeing as Vegeta would die with Goku as well. It has always been reminded that Sayians, in fact most life forms under gods and magical beings can survive a planet exploding. All the Sayians died from it, so would Vegeta & Goku. All the Sayians ever did was just invade it and take it over killing the population on it. If anything Vegeta should have just threatned his Galick Gun' explosion would kill all the inhabitance rather than the planet itself.

[radrappy]

I think Vegeta's threat to destroy the planet was always a bit of an exaggeration of his own abilities. It probably would have blown a pretty sizable chunk out of it, make no mistake.

[EmmaWinters]

I think what makes less sense would be the threat of blowing up the Earth seeing as Vegeta would die with Goku as well.

Vegeta wanted to trap and kill Goku by forcing him to counter & take brunt of his blast.
"Go ahead and dodge this if you can. You might save yourself, but your Earth will be blown to pieces".

I think Vegeta's threat to destroy the planet was always a bit of an exaggeration of his own abilities. It probably would have blown a pretty sizable chunk out of it, make no mistake.

If Kame Sen'nin could blow up the moon all the way from Earth, I have zero doubt Vegeta could blow the Earth up.
Not really on-topic, though.

I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living as shown in the saiyan arc before he came on earth, and occasionally did so while in the middle of space; so now somehow he can't breathe there anymore?

We never see Vegeta breathe in space in the manga. The closest we get is the panel showing Bardock, which was based on the anime special if I'm not mistaken. Freeza claimed that Saiyans can't survive in in the vacuum of space; he of all people would know. Then again, there's Battle of Gods, but I'm sure there are a dozen fan theories for that one.

[Hellspawn28]

Amidst all this talk about Sorbet catching Goku off guard or not being sensed by him and being able to damage him despite the power level gap, I'm surprised no one has mentioned the even bigger plot-hole of Vegeta dying by Earth's destruction. I mean come on, he used to destroy planets for a living as shown in the saiyan arc before he came on earth, and occasionally did so while in the middle of space; so now somehow he can't breathe there anymore?

Sayians always need to breath. Goku had to hold his breath under water a few times in the past. Even if Vegeta can somehow survive in space then he still dies without food and water.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I think what makes less sense would be the threat of blowing up the Earth seeing as Vegeta would die with Goku as well.

Vegeta wanted to trap and kill Goku by forcing him to counter & take brunt of his blast.
"Go ahead and dodge this if you can. You might save yourself, but your Earth will be blown to pieces".

But how would Goku save himself if he cant survive the explosion? ...and even if he wanted Goku to counter him, if he was losing to Goku, I don't see why he would demand Goku's full power at that point.

[Mewzard]

But how would Goku save himself if he cant survive the explosion? ...and even if he wanted Goku to counter him, if he was losing to Goku, I don't see why he would demand Goku's full power at that point.

I think he was trying to bluff Goku to take the attack so he'd die instead of dodge.

Also, Vegeta didn't know Goku could KKx4, or if he had an attack as potent as his Galick Gun. It was simply a gamble that failed.

[SansrivaaL]

"Outside" view? Outside of what? The forum? The fanbase? How is decrying something that has a perfectly reasonable explanation behind it not an invalid opinion? It's the definition of invalid.

I don't even know what argument you're trying to put forth but it's clear that you're just blabbering at this point and I find that absolutely hilarious.

I care, it was fun reading someone else's view point, someone thats simple and doesnt think too much about it and most importantly probably not a ''fanboy'' I might do this too with some of my friends lol

[Polyphase Avatron]

Hey, count your blessings, I'd rather have Freeza return and match Goku a thousand times before seeing Broly do the same.

[baneofdemon22]

I care; it's interesting to see what someone who doesn't care about Dragon Ball anymore thinks about what it currently is like. I'm sorry if you can't appreciate it for that.

Actually yeah, asking causal/ex-fans has kept be more open minded about the film than I otherwise would have. It why I usually stay away form this thread lol. Just yesterday I told a store clerk about the film because he saw my DB shirt and he got super excited, made me a bit jealous as I could never be that happy. Knowing how others with a passing or previous interest feel helps me keep my dislike in check.

That's very cool! I don't know anyone personally that is into Dragon Ball, but I've gotten that experience with people finding out about Batman fighting Superman in the upcoming movie. It's blowing people's mind that this is happening; whereas I've seen it multiple times in comics and cartoons.

I'm newer to this franchise and I loved everything about it until joining forums that analyzed it to death! Still, it's great that this series actually allows for all that discussion. I think it has a lot to do with the ambiguity. I like a lot of geeky things (mainly superheroes), but this is the only franchise I get on forums and constantly talk about! I just love it so much!

[Marlowe89]

I care, it was fun reading someone else's view point, someone thats simple and doesnt think too much about it and most importantly probably not a ''fanboy'' I might do this too with some of my friends lol

Good for you. I just don't find many of these "casual" viewpoints (and even amongst those, it really depends on how casual the person in question is) to be any different than what was actually already brought up in this thread by fans, mostly because there isn't a whole lot to think about in the first place. DBZ is pretty straightforward for the most part when it comes to lore and plot details.

What opinion.

Read the conversation. To be specific, I'm talking about the idea of Freeza catching up to Goku in four months somehow "not making sense".

[ShadowWolf87]

Hey, count your blessings, I'd rather have Freeza return and match Goku a thousand times before seeing Broly do the same.

That's one thing I've never understood about some of the negative reception; some people seem to want anyone but Freeza back. They've suggested a "third" Cooler movie, and "fourth" Broly movie, etc. But for some reason the idea of Freeza being back offended them.

Part of me wants to think it has to do with the old dub's presentation of Freeza as some kind of super schoolyard bully or dumb brute people were just too scared to defy, but... idk. Just puzzles me.

[TheRed259]

The full version of the movie's ending theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYYhAryLnHY

[Cetra]

The full version of the movie's ending theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYYhAryLnHY

Better than F in any way except F has a better refrain, in my opinion.

[Dyno]

Well... Liked the chorus, at least.

[Doctor.]

I don't like it at all, and I don't think it should have a place in a film of this nature.

[Chuquita]

The full version of the movie's ending theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYYhAryLnHY

Better than F in any way except F has a better refrain, in my opinion.

That Freeza troop at the end. XD

It's a stylish video, I'll give it that.