"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Doctor.]

GT is very clearly from the same series, it has the same feel more or less, but contains new character designs and is in a different time period.

The main plot points of an arc would be the same regardless of the time period or character designs.

Yea, but there wouldn't be a big "THE END" that we'd know about before it aired.

[SansrivaaL]

Its amazing how a 15 sec teaser made this much backlash, the fanbase is truly a dark and scary place to be at times. Anyways I'm just happy there will be more DB, I dont care if its full of pure interactions and jokes, as long as its DB heck yeah, hearing that an opponent stronger than Boo and Frieza will make an appearance is enough to keep me excited

[fexus]

It always have and will always be the adventures of Goku. There is no Z or normal DB. It's just DB. A different series mean it isn't dragon ball anymore. Should have let Toriyama do a whole new series then.

The anime is divided into DB and DBZ. And seeing as how Super is an anime, I'm not sure why you're bringing the manga into this. I meant a new series as in the same vein as GT. GT is very clearly from the same series, it has the same feel more or less, but contains new character designs and is in a different time period.

Does the Japanese ever make that distinction? Did Z get a whole lot different or is Z just like a season 2. Like Naruto Shippuden. That isn't a different series then.

[sintzu]

Yea, but there wouldn't be a big "THE END" that we'd know about before it aired.

Even if it was set after the EOZ it would have the same ending,sure the setting might be different but the outcome would be the same which is good winning against evil and everyone being alive and well.

[Rukura]

No you don't need to say that you like or even enjoy DB. Just post your critique and remember to post the same thing multiple time. I mean Toriyama would eventually read your post if you post enough.

I don't what, or who, you're hinting at, but we're in a forum with other people that also have opinions. They're not always gonna line up, and we'll read quite a few along the way.

[Doctor.]

It always have and will always be the adventures of Goku. There is no Z or normal DB. It's just DB. A different series mean it isn't dragon ball anymore. Should have let Toriyama do a whole new series then.

The anime is divided into DB and DBZ. And seeing as how Super is an anime, I'm not sure why you're bringing the manga into this. I meant a new series as in the same vein as GT. GT is very clearly from the same series, it has the same feel more or less, but contains new character designs and is in a different time period.

Does the Japanese ever make that distinction? Did Z get a whole lot different or is Z just like a season 2. Like Naruto Shippuden. That isn't a different series then.

Wrong term to use, then.

Even if it was set after the EOZ it would have the same ending,sure the setting might be different but the outcome would be the same which is good winning against evil and everyone being alive and well.

Did you not read what I said? That's not the point. It doesn't matter if there's a 99% chance that everything will turn out alright. What matters is that there's a 1% chance that it won't, which would be keeping me, at least, at the edge of my seat. As it stands now, we're 100% sure everything will be okay, and it makes things predictable and it takes away all tension.

[dbzfan7]

Seriously guys...there's a foe option. Just use that if there's some comments you don't like seeing. Don't like negativity, use the foe option. BAM, suddenly the comments you don't like are no longer visible. Instead it's people bitching cause they want to, and I see no reason why they can not, and people bitching on other people cause their bitching. You know to save yourselves the headaches, you could just ignore bitching and only converse with those who are excited. Let people who are unhappy converse, and people who are happy converse. Let people love and worship, and let people hate and dump on something they don't particularly like. You have no obligation to make people like something they don't want to or hate something they like. It's getting really damn annoying seeing people complain about other people complaining when you can just hide those comments.

Honestly never heard of that.
What does it do exactly? It can't obviously recognize whining comments from actual comments, but then I guess it sorts of eliminate specific members from ever having their comments on your screen or something, as if those members didn't exist on the forum?

It blocks the main comments of those you don't want to see. It does not cover replies I think, but it should help cut down on the negative comments you don't like seeing. It ain't perfect, but it might as well be used as why bother bitching about bitchers or vice versa anyways? May as well just filter out the posts you don't like so it's easier to focus on the one's you do enjoy.

[Avery]

So, I need to keep repeating that I enjoyed it EVERYTIME I critique something I wanna see improved on? Do I also need to repeat that I like Dragon Ball, even though I'm posting in THIS forum? A list of what Dragon Ball content I liked and didn't like? Is this not kinda ridiculous?

No you don't need to say that you like or even enjoy DB. Just post your critique and remember to post the same thing multiple time. I mean Toriyama would eventually read your post if you post enough.

I enjoy reading critiques. Especially if they are backed by valid points like Doctor's argument. We all know that most fans have positive opinions and the majority of those who voice their opinions are the "haters" so I don't see the problem. Satisfied fans don't usually have anything to say.

[Cold Skin]

What does it do exactly? It can't obviously recognize whining comments from actual comments, but then I guess it sorts of eliminate specific members from ever having their comments on your screen or something, as if those members didn't exist on the forum?

Its a simple ignore list function. "Add a foe" -> all comments from that person are not displayed for you and instead you have a bar that says the comment from person x is not shown for you.

It blocks the main comments of those you don't want to see. It does not cover replies I think, but it should help cut down on the negative comments you don't like seeing. It ain't perfect, but it might as well be used as why bother bitching about bitchers or vice versa anyways? May as well just filter out the posts you don't like so it's easier to focus on the one's you do enjoy.

Thanks, guys!
"Foe" is a bit of a strong word, but the function could be interesting.

But maybe that would be a little extreme, the fact that I don't want to see their ever-negative "mountains out of molehills" comments about Super doesn't mean that I wouldn't want to see their comments elsewhere, as they could have interesting things to say on other topics.
For now, I'll stick to my plan to just not check the Super section once it starts, even if it means losing the interesting comments in the process.

We all know that most fans have positive opinions and the majority of those who voice their opinions are the "haters" so I don't see the problem. Satisfied fans don't usually have anything to say.

I try to keep telling myself that, but sometimes the apparent negativity looks so overwhelming that it's hard remembering there's unseen positivity all over too, and much more positivity than negativity despite the appearances (positivity appearing MUCH more in real life talk than on forums and Internet comments).

[fexus]

I enjoy reading critiques. Especially if they are backed by valid points like Doctor's argument. We all know that most fans have positive opinions and the majority of those who voice their opinions are the "haters" so I don't see the problem. Satisfied fans don't usually have anything to say.

I also enjoy reading critique accept when I have to read it multiple times in multiple pages by the same person of the same "critique".

[Marco Polo]

DBGT had the balls (pun intended ) to remove Goku from the living world at the end of the series. So no, not everyone HAS to remain alive and well.

EDIT: Piccolo and Android 17 too.

[Chuquita]

I'm interested in what Vegeta's up to. He's been attracting plot stuff ever since he was introduced. I want to see how he factors in this time, especially now that it's post Buu Vegeta we're working with.

[sintzu]

I'm interested in what Vegeta's up to. He's been attracting plot stuff ever since he was introduced. I want to see how he factors in this time, especially now that it's post Buu Vegeta we're working with.

Hopefully he'll take down an arc villain this time.

[Doctor.]

DBGT had the balls (pun intended ) to remove Goku from the living world at the end of the series. So no, not everyone HAS to remain alive and well.

EDIT: Piccolo and Android 17 too.

That's the point. We KNOW everyone is gonna be alive and well because of the epilogue! If the epilogue wasn't there, I wouldn't be complaining about this time period and saying all events are predictable at all.

Imagine two scenarios:

1. Forget the Boo arc exists. Super starts right after the Cell arc. For 20 episodes, no mention or sight of Goku. In the 21st, he comes back alive. You're probably pleasantly surprised, right? You may be asking yourself how he got revived and what happened. Now imagine the series goes on for 100 episodes longer and Goku dies at the end in sort of a GT way.
2. The Boo arc still exists but Super takes place in the 7 year gap. Again, for 20 episodes, no mention of Goku, yet he appears in the 21st episode. You'd probably be surprised, but you already know that by the time the Boo arc comes along, he's gonna be dead again. So the series goes on for 100 episodes more and Goku dies again at the end. His death would lose a lot more meaning that way, because it was predictable since EVERYONE knew it was gonna happen.

Switch death with revival and Goku with anyone else and you get the complaints.

Anyway, I'm not gonna talk about this anymore, since there's nothing I can do.

[Marco Polo]

DBGT had the balls (pun intended ) to remove Goku from the living world at the end of the series. So no, not everyone HAS to remain alive and well.

EDIT: Piccolo and Android 17 too.

That's the point. We KNOW everyone is gonna be alive and well because of the epilogue! If the epilogue wasn't there, I wouldn't be complaining about this time period and saying all events are predictable at all.

Imagine two scenarios:

1. Forget the Boo arc exists. Super starts right after the Cell arc. For 20 episodes, no mention or sight of Goku. In the 21st, he comes back alive. You're probably pleasantly surprised, right? You may be asking yourself how he got revived and what happened. Now imagine the series goes on for 100 episodes longer and Goku dies at the end in sort of a GT way.
2. The Boo arc still exists but Super takes place in the 7 year gap. Again, for 20 episodes, no mention of Goku, yet he appears in the 21st episode. You'd probably be surprised, but you already know that by the time the Boo arc comes along, he's gonna be dead again. So the series goes on for 100 episodes more and Goku dies again at the end. His death would lose a lot more meaning that way, because it was predictable since EVERYONE knew it was gonna happen.

Switch death with revival and Goku with anyone else and you get the complaints.

Anyway, I'm not gonna talk about this anymore, since there's nothing I can do.

But my point is your point! I was just backing you up

[UltimateHammerBro]

DBGT had the balls (pun intended ) to remove Goku from the living world at the end of the series. So no, not everyone HAS to remain alive and well.

EDIT: Piccolo and Android 17 too.

GT didn't have any set ending which fans were looking forward to, so Toei could do pretty much anything with the characters.

With Super taking place pre-EoZ, we know who's going to remain alive and well: as much as it tries to add uncertainty to the mix, we know that Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks... are going to be perfectly fine again once the Tournament with Oob comes.

That said, imagine that Super has a couple of sagas set before EoZ, then does a timeskip and starts telling new stories post-EoZ... then not everyone would have to remain alive and well.

[Marco Polo]

GT didn't have any set ending which fans were looking forward to, so Toei could do pretty much anything with the characters.

With Super taking place pre-EoZ, we know who's going to remain alive and well: as much as it tries to add uncertainty to the mix, we know that Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks... are going to be perfectly fine again once the Tournament with Oob comes.

Again, that's my point and Doctor.'s point.

I wanted Super to take place after EoZ because there would actually be suspense and possible surprises that way.

[UltimateHammerBro]

GT didn't have any set ending which fans were looking forward to, so Toei could do pretty much anything with the characters.

With Super taking place pre-EoZ, we know who's going to remain alive and well: as much as it tries to add uncertainty to the mix, we know that Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Goten, Trunks... are going to be perfectly fine again once the Tournament with Oob comes.

Again, that's my point and Doctor.'s point.

I wanted Super to take place after EoZ because there would actually be suspense and possible surprises that way.

Then I guess I was confused. I thought you were saying the exact opposite

[pacz360]

So does anyone know if we gonna get a full trailer? Will be nice to know

[sintzu]

So does anyone know if we gonna get a full trailer? Will be nice to know

Someone here said we're getting one tomorrow.