Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

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Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Xeogran » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:10 am

Well i have just been randomly thinking about it. Penguin Village is such a strange place that i don't know if it even is on the same Earth that DB takes place in.

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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Legendary Saiya-Jin » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:30 am

Arale's power is maximum, so no.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:33 am

^This. Arale's toon force would probably give her a victory. In reality, yes Kid Buu would knock her head off with a finger.
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Post by Kaboom » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:41 am

Obviously Senbei, Arale, and the gang just so happened to be out on a week-long adventure through space when Majin Boo attacked.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Xeogran » Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:57 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:^This. Arale's toon force would probably give her a victory. In reality, yes Kid Buu would knock her head off with a finger.
I mean when he destroyed the Earth.
Kaboom wrote:Obviously Senbei, Arale, and the gang just so happened to be out on a week-long adventure through space when Majin Boo attacked.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:03 am

Pfff Arale can breath in space and survive planet explosions, duh :roll: .
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Insertclevername » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:47 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote: In reality, yes Kid Buu would knock her head off with a finger.
What reality? You mean in the context of Dragon Ball, right? Even still, Arale is just as strong.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:49 pm

Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:49 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote: In reality, yes Kid Buu would knock her head off with a finger.
What reality? You mean in the context of Dragon Ball, right? Even still, Arale is just as strong.
In the context of making sense. She is just a little kid. Toon force is often seen as PIS so people disregard it.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:51 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
:lolno: Arale would kick Boo's ass if they were to meet each other.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:58 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
:lolno: Arale would kick Boo's ass if they were to meet each other.
She does have toon force and strength feats better than anyone.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Bussani » Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:52 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
Even if that were true, all the other machines on Earth were brought back.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Pantalones » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:22 pm

"Toon force" (who came up with that term, anyway? so stupid-sounding...) being used in fights/power comparisons is nonsense and garbage. Gag characters are not magically omnipotent in non-gag scenarios just because. They can do absurd things way beyond their normal level of power sometimes as a joke, but those kinds of things are not consistent. They can't repeat all of their gag "feats" on a whim, and they don't have that kind of power in non-jokey situations. Arale is not Buu, who is both a goofy character and legitimately powerful when things get serious. Arale is just a gag character. She does have a degree of legitimate super-strength which is way too much for early/mid-Dragonball characters to handle... but so does Piccolo Daimaou, or Kami, or pretty much anyone in DBZ. Most of her super-strength beyond that level is only for the sake of gags and doesn't really count in a non-gag situation.

If not for that one scene where she punches a planet in half as a gag (which isn't even in Dragonball, by the way; that happens in Dr. Slump, which seems to take place in a completely different world than the Dragonball series despite some Dr. Slump characters also appearing in Dragonball), nobody would ever think to compare her to even someone as low down on the planet-destroyer chain as freaking Saiyan saga Vegeta, let alone someone as powerful as Buu. She's a robot, so yeah, she could survive in space if she escaped the blast... but she would not survive a planet-destroying blast too strong for Goku and Vegeta combined to stop.

And no matter how hard somebody can punch, what can it really do to freaking Buu? It's still just a punch, no matter how powerful of a punch it is, and it takes lot more than a plain physical attack to destroy any form of Buu. To destroy Buu you have to completely destroy every last bit of him, not just splatter him to bits with a strong punch. Even a cloud of Buu smoke is enough Buu left for him to regenerate from. In a legitimate fight between the two (even assuming her planet-breaking gag strength is not just for the sake of the gag), he'd just regenerate after the first punch, laugh like a maniac, and then blow her up or turn her into candy just like anybody else. And she is not a magical being created by Potara fusion with absurdly-strong ki, so she would not be the kind of candy that can move.

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All that said, I actually really like the "they were off on an adventure in space that day, so they missed the planet exploding" explanation. Though it does kind of rob Mr. Satan of his "only resident of Earth who never died (during or before the Buu saga)" title.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:18 pm

Pantalones wrote:If not for that one scene where she punches a planet in half as a gag
Seems like you haven't read/watched Dr. Slump. She has done it more than once, and she has done more things than that.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Bussani » Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:30 pm

Pantalones wrote:"Toon force" (who came up with that term, anyway? so stupid-sounding...) being used in fights/power comparisons is nonsense and garbage. Gag characters are not magically omnipotent in non-gag scenarios just because. They can do absurd things way beyond their normal level of power sometimes as a joke, but those kinds of things are not consistent. They can't repeat all of their gag "feats" on a whim, and they don't have that kind of power in non-jokey situations. Arale is not Buu, who is both a goofy character and legitimately powerful when things get serious. Arale is just a gag character. She does have a degree of legitimate super-strength which is way too much for early/mid-Dragonball characters to handle... but so does Piccolo Daimaou, or Kami, or pretty much anyone in DBZ. Most of her super-strength beyond that level is only for the sake of gags and doesn't really count in a non-gag situation.
Gag characters such as Arale tend to turn a non-gag situation into a gag situation just by being there. It doesn't often go the other way around.
And no matter how hard somebody can punch, what can it really do to freaking Buu? It's still just a punch, no matter how powerful of a punch it is, and it takes lot more than a plain physical attack to destroy any form of Buu.
Fundamentally speaking, there's no real difference between the energy in a punch and the energy in an energy blast. It's all about scales.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:49 pm

Kaboom wrote:Obviously Senbei, Arale, and the gang just so happened to be out on a week-long adventure through space when Majin Boo attacked.
Must also explain the Pilaf gang.
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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:17 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
You know it. :thumbup:
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RandomGuy96 wrote:Of course. And due to being a machine like Android 16, Arale was never brought back.
You know it. :thumbup:
But android 8 came back to life, remember?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:22 pm

MajinAsura wrote:But android 8 came back to life, remember?
This thread is from last year. You shouldn't necropost.

Anyway, #8 is a human based model like #17 & #18.
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Re: Did Kid Buu kill Arale?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:28 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Anyway, #8 is a human based model like #17 & #18.
Didn't Toriyama retcon this?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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