KOL explains why writing is atrocious
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KOL explains why writing is atrocious
I found this video of KOL explaining why the writing of Super is mediocre at best, and no for the aplogists out there this is not all about "power-scalling", its the inconsistency of the writing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnU55dfRLMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnU55dfRLMY
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Re: KOL explains why writing is atrocious
If anyone uses the word "apologist",then they don't deserve to be taken seriously."You defended a show that i dislike? Oh wow, what an apologist".Leave,don't waste time.
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I don't even know who is that guy.
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
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I don't take anyone seriously when they used someone on Youtube to prove a point instead of just making the point themselves. At least Ajay has some animation experience and knowledge of the industry despite my misgiven about the guy recently. KOL is just dude who talks a lot and belittles anyone who doesn't share his opinion.
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#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
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This is just preaching to the choir at this point, you don't kick an already opened door.
Video about people bitching about DBS for "critical purpose" and "validity within the general anime fandom" have already been done to death but the wave is still there right ? So why not ride on it ?
Video about people bitching about DBS for "critical purpose" and "validity within the general anime fandom" have already been done to death but the wave is still there right ? So why not ride on it ?
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Doctor. wrote:#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
In the DBS ch. 30 Manga, Goku says he has no idea where 17 is because "He doesn't have Ki". This could explain why 17 actually was able to surprise Jiren. And maybe it could explain as well why Jiren had troubles fighting him, to some extend. Just my headcanon.
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That’s also in the anime. That’s how 17 and 18 snuck up on that general in 101.Mister_Popo wrote:Doctor. wrote:#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
In the DBS ch. 30 Manga, Goku says he has no idea where 17 is because "He doesn't have Ki". This could explain why 17 actually was able to surprise Jiren. And maybe it could explain as well why Jiren had troubles fighting him, to some extend. Just my headcanon.
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youtubers....man I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
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That scene still grinds my gear.Vados says that even most skilled warriors are vulnerable when finishing their opponents,but Jiren doesn’t even have that weakness.Now,his opponent isn’t some random guy it is a thousand years old assassin that can stop time and do invisible attacks.Even if we assume that hit can’t hide his energy to be invisible,17 just walks up and blasts jiren.We are informed with shocking twist that Jiren was caught off guard.Even more annoying is freezes who just comes screaming like Tarzan and kicks Jiren.Doctor. wrote:#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
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It's also worth considering that Jiren may have been more on guard before, with so many potentially dangerous opponents still in the arena, but he relaxed his guard with only a few left, including ones like 17 who he didn't consider to be a real threat.Hawk9211 wrote:[That scene still grinds my gear.Vados says that even most skilled warriors are vulnerable when finishing their opponents,but Jiren doesn’t even have that weakness.Now,his opponent isn’t some random guy it is a thousand years old assassin that can stop time and do invisible attacks.Even if we assume that hit can’t hide his energy to be invisible,17 just walks up and blasts jiren.We are informed with shocking twist that Jiren was caught off guard.Even more annoying is freezes who just comes screaming like Tarzan and kicks Jiren.Doctor. wrote:#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.
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Then you're alienating all of them? Honestly watch the video he brings up good points why Super is piss poorly written.precita wrote:youtubers....man I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
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If you defend something that is clearly bad, well yeah what other word would you use? Super is a terriblly written mess.FrostByte wrote:If anyone uses the word "apologist",then they don't deserve to be taken seriously."You defended a show that i dislike? Oh wow, what an apologist".Leave,don't waste time.
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Super is still bad right? So why not ride on it?Guesswhoo wrote:This is just preaching to the choir at this point, you don't kick an already opened door.
Video about people bitching about DBS for "critical purpose" and "validity within the general anime fandom" have already been done to death but the wave is still there right ? So why not ride on it ?
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Because we are BY him, also please stop forcing people to do and think what you want.Shuby wrote:Then you're alienating all of them? Honestly watch the video he brings up good points why Super is piss poorly written.precita wrote:youtubers....man I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
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with Super it’s just got worse.Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Because we are BY him, also please stop forcing people to do and think what you want.Shuby wrote:Then you're alienating all of them? Honestly watch the video he brings up good points why Super is piss poorly written.precita wrote:youtubers....man I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
The show is awful.
Liking it is one thing, but to defend it’s terrible writing as something that is acceptable is just crazy and dishonest.
I’ve read better fan fiction
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Go back to the youtube comments,and you'll find people like yourself to circlejerk.This KOL guy is a jiren fanboy and he's angry because Goku punched Jiren once.He completely ignored the fact that UI Goku also got stronger compared to the first time they fought.Shuby wrote:If you defend something that is clearly bad, well yeah what other word would you use? Super is a terriblly written mess.FrostByte wrote:If anyone uses the word "apologist",then they don't deserve to be taken seriously."You defended a show that i dislike? Oh wow, what an apologist".Leave,don't waste time.
"Even now,as he fights,he continues to evolve.With every block,he hits Jiren more quickly,sharply and heavily"-Piccolo,Episode 110.
KOL:If you dont like power of friendship,then you shouldnt like Vegeta vs Toppo.
Lmao that guy reviews One piece,and there are many "power of friendship" boosts in OP.Luffy vs Rob Lucci climax fight has one too,and he considers that fight one of the best.
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Right...Let's ignore his 35 minute detailed breakdown. Your post is clearly more convincing than thatprecita wrote:youtubers....man I feel like I was born in the wrong decade.
I don't take anything youtubers say seriously...
In all honesty, dragonball super is a poorly written mess full of retcons and inconsistencies at a magnitude never before seen in dragonball history. Let's just hope the next series starts off on a better note
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No it's not. Jiren clearly was aware of Hit coming to attack him from behind, he just couldn't attack fast enough so hit got him first. With 17's case, it was a large blast from behind and Jiren had no idea he even was there.Doctor. wrote:#17 catching Jiren off-guard when Hit failed to do the same is a good point. I forgot about that.
Everything else I agree with and made the same observations when the episodes came out.