The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Rocketman]

Nail is stronger than Oozaru Nappa.

[Tyro]

Nail is stronger than Oozaru Nappa.

I know this gets fought over a lot but this is only if you believe that Nappa maxes out at 4,000.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Vegeta should win it for them, Nappa and Raditz just need to protect his royal behind, after all, he'd be screwed if his tail were to go. If it's the Saiyans pre Planet Vegeta's destruction minus the Vegeta family, one of the elites should be able to create an artificial moon, then a bunch of Oozaru's stomp.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Whis vs. Omega Shenron

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Whis vs. Omega Shenron

Whis, he's like MFTL or something.

[RandomGuy96]

We have nothing to compare them on, just that they both can destroy a universe- not very impressive at that point, since the anime-only version of Buuhan could do the same thing.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Universe corroding isn't anywhere near as special as shooting a blast somewhere and destroying the Universe, and Whis can't universe corrode. Boohan was going to destroy the universe via chain reaction. Usually I hate talking about filler, but since we're talking about GT aswell, I will.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I hear Whis used to be Dai Kaioshin and retired

[Saiga]

Namekian population vs Saiyan population:

Prior to Freeza blowing the planet up, Nail could solo the entire planet except for the Royal Family as Oozaru. If the moons are allowed, the Saiyans lolstomp the Namekians. Hell, Oozaru Vegeta soloes Namek. Oozaru Nappa soloes except for Nail.

There's hardly any fighters on Namek, and all we know from the manga is that there are 3 at 3,000. Everyone other than Nail is fodder.

Saiyan vs Namekian fighter at equal powers: it depends entirely on the individual.

Whis vs Omega: Omega stomps.

[RandomGuy96]

Do you have a way to compare Omega and Whis?

[Saiga]

Do you have a way to compare Omega and Whis?

Whis' is implied to be stronger than SSG Goku, and that's it. SSG Goku is a match for Beers who is stronger than Vegetto, and that's it.

GT, meanwhile, is on a whole different tier.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

It all comes down to where you place Vegetto I guess, I have manga Vegetto higher than his anime counter-part so I place Whis higher than Omega Shenron, and Whis''s MFTL since he flew everywhere. That's an extra something that puts him above Omega.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Whis' is implied to be stronger than SSG Goku, and that's it. SSG Goku is a match for Beers who is stronger than Vegetto, and that's it.

SSG Goku is a match for Beers when he is using 70% of his power. Beers didn't go all out.

[Saiga]

Whis' is implied to be stronger than SSG Goku, and that's it. SSG Goku is a match for Beers who is stronger than Vegetto, and that's it.

SSG Goku is a match for Beers when he is using 70% of his power. Beers didn't go all out.

Yeah, I knew that. I meant to say "nearly a match" because of that.

Saiyan Prince Vegeta What makes you put manga Vegetto higher? It's the anime version with the better showing (beating up Gohan-Boo in base).

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

I take SEG statement of Vegetto being closer to multiplication to mean the manga version, I don't actually think he's Vegeta X Goku. Oh, and because the anime powers just seem strange for Boo, in the manga I have SSj3 Goku about 15-20 x weaker than Gohan, but I place the anime version much closer because of his display against Bootenks. Could just be me though.

There's more, but I'm working and shouldn't be on my phone for to long.

[rereboy]

I have manga Vegetto higher than his anime counter-part

Why? In the anime, Vegetto fought against Buu with his base and even at base he was winning. In the manga he immediately used SSJ, making it unclear if he could actually handle Buu with just his base.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Because I take the SEG statement of Vegetto being closer to multiplication rather than addittion as it talking about the manga version. Not just that, but the anime is effed with power, Goku doesn't do terrible against Bootenks, and only seems slightly weaker than Gohan. In the manga I have Gohan about 15-20 x stronger than Goku, so anime Boohan isn't even 5-10 x stronger than SSJ3 Goku, that is if Boo's absorptions work as addition. So IMO base Vegetto only needs to be 6-11 x stronger than SSJ3 Goku in the anime to fight Boohan. My point is that Boo is messed up in the anime, or Goku.

It's the SEG statement that mainly does it for me though as it fits the manga much more than the anime. If I say anime Goku is roughly equal to his manga counterpart then Gohan is a lot weaker in the anime, then Boohan is, and Vegetto too for doing no better as Super Vegetto. It's probably just Goku love to be honest.

I'm a manga fan over anime, so I might be making a lot of the mistakes as I haven't watched the anime in a couple of years.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But taking the "Goku X Vegeta" as a multiplication doesn't make sense. The Potara are magical items made by the gods, while scouters & battle power numbers are created by aliens. The BP numbers symbolize one's power, but his power is not a number. So, it's completely illogical for Vegetto's power to be "73.273.832 X 72.993.098", because the Potara & the nature of ki are not related with numbers. The numbers are just a way to symbolize ones power.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Nail is stronger than Oozaru Nappa.

I know this gets fought over a lot but this is only if you believe that Nappa maxes out at 4,000.

It IS 4,000. You are just denying official material if you think he is weaker or stronger.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It IS 4,000. You are just denying official material if you think he is weaker or stronger.

The problem is that in the manga, both Goku & Vegeta believed that the fight between Goku & Nappa would take forever, which wouldn't be the case if Goku was 2 times stronger. IMO, Nappa's battle power is before he goes full power (when Goku is obviously a lot stronger), and later went around 8.000 when he powered up & fought evenly with Goku.