"Jaco the Galactic Patrolman" discussion (incl. "DB Minus")

[soulnova]

Anyway, Toriyama doesn't recall exactly how the design of Bardock went down:

How was the character of Bardock born? (I heard he was born from the TV special, “A Lonely Final Battle”, but…) Also, what sort of attachment do you have to the character Bardock?
Yes, Bardock certainly was born from the anime.
However, I don’t remember the particulars of how it went at that time1.

As for his design, I think I probably just gave some editorial supervision to what was suggested to me by [people from] the anime side of things.

I don’t recall a lot about the exact contents of the anime, but I do remember it being quite well done. So I used that setting in the main story, as well.

You know, I like Ooshi overall. You could tell in that interview with Toriyama her questions (even if guided) were those of a fan that really wants to know the specifics we never got.

[FortuneSSJ]

The hype is strong. That trailer gave me more questions than answers.

Talking about Jaco manga overall.
Since the beginning its obvious that Toriyama, this time, planned thing out. But it was its own idea to make this DB prequel or someone asked him to do it?!

[B]

But it was its own idea to make this DB prequel or someone asked him to do it?!

What does this matter? It wasn't his idea for the series to be longer than ten or so volumes, but that still happened and we still regard it as a part of the series.

[FortuneSSJ]

But it was its own idea to make this DB prequel or someone asked him to do it?!

What does this matter? It wasn't his idea for the series to be longer than ten or so volumes, but that still happened and we still regard it as a part of the series.

Just curiosity. I would like to know the answer but seems like you dont know either.

[soulnova]

I'm just glad he decided to do something DB related, starting with Jaco.

I'm sure he got plenty of fanmail, even before the story was over, asking him if he was really going to show Goku and others asking him to draw more about Goku's past. Sure, it seems like he had finished all the manga by the time they started publishing it but... the editors must had seen the potential of the nostalgia and encouraged/suggested him to do the extra chapter.

[FortuneSSJ]

I'm just glad he decided to do something DB related, starting with Jaco.

I'm sure he got plenty of fanmail, even before the story was over, asking him if he was really going to show Goku and others asking him to draw more about Goku's past. Sure, it seems like he had finished all the manga by the time they started publishing it but... the editors must had seen the potential of the nostalgia and encouraged/suggested him to do the extra chapter.

Seems like so. But that thing "The shocking revival of Dragon Ball" was kinda over the top. xD

[soulnova]

I'm used to those expressions after all this time.

But...well, he *did* revived DB from its slumber and even gave us some Saiyan goodness as a dessert!

It just surprises me that after all this time the questions about Goku's mother hadn't been brought up on an interview before. It would have been one of my first questions along with the info of the original Planet Saiya and the Tsufu-Saiya war.

[B]

But it was its own idea to make this DB prequel or someone asked him to do it?!

What does this matter? It wasn't his idea for the series to be longer than ten or so volumes, but that still happened and we still regard it as a part of the series.

Just curiosity. I would like to know the answer but seems like you dont know either.

Right, nobody knows, but the implication that Toriyama being prompted to work on this extra material, as opposed to jumping out of bed with an idea, somehow "lessens" the work feels very dodgy to me.

[auspx]

So, did Goku's parents tell him to "kill all the Earthlings and conquer the planet" or what? Maybe his mom wouldn't say it like that but I'm sure that Bardock would. Now I really want to see what exactly happened when Goku met Grandpa Gohan for the first time. Did he attack Grandpa Gohan?

[Chuquita]

Getting a chance to look at the clearer image; I don't know why child Raditz amuses me here; probably because I'm so used to how incredibly tall he is as an adult that it's kinda neat to see him as a kid (also, after hearing child!Pilaf, I kind of want to hear Shigeru Chiba's child!Raditz now. X3 )

I guess Toriyama's definitely going with the "child Vegeta has no bangs" route.

I want to translate Bardock's dialogue bubbles so badly, but I'm in desperate need of sleep, so possibly I may attempt translation after I get some rest. @_@

[dbgt]

I got the super kanzenban of Jaco today, after opening it I will share more pictures



More Pictures:

Spoiler:

One local bookstore supplies

[ZombieVito]

So, did Goku's parents tell him to "kill all the Earthlings and conquer the planet" or what? Maybe his mom wouldn't say it like that but I'm sure that Bardock would. Now I really want to see what exactly happened when Goku met Grandpa Gohan for the first time. Did he attack Grandpa Gohan?

Yep. Both specials of Bardock are out of the canon now. Can't wait for this, how long will the manga be?

[Metalwario64]

Well, I loved the Bardock special, so seeing Bardock looking at Goku with a smile is a bit off-putting, but I am curious and I obviously don't really know anything about it yet.

I'm sure it'll be better than Episode of Bardock though.

[ZombieVito]

Don't get me wrong, I do love it as well but it is what it is.

[Chuquita]

It feels belated now, but here's my attempt to translate that screenshot from the commercial:

Spoiler:

When it came to the smaller/blurrier text, I felt less confident, but I gave it a try anyway. ^^;

Also! Thoughts on the additional pictures of Gine I've seen:

Spoiler:

I'm actually quite surprised she has short hair and 18-style eyes, but it looks good on her. I like the character design (though now that it was mentioned about the hairstyle looking kinda like Goten's end of Z haircut, I can't unsee it. ^^; ) Also I like how "meat distribution center" actually means "Deli", and that Gine's effectively a meat-butcher. X3

I want to read the whole comic, but from the bits I saw, I like the Bardock/Gine pairing.

The back of Gine's armor with that tail hole reminds me of Beerus' tail hole his pants had.

I'm wondering if baby Kakarrotto is sleeping in that pod or if Freeza's hooked saiyajin up to grow their babies in these pods instead of carrying them to term in their bodies.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I found a site with a few more images, don't know where it would fall under Kanzenshuu policy.

Spoiler:

http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/04/gok ... nus-manga/

[dbgt]

Some pics of Dragon Ball Minus

[RocktheDragon]

Well I just went through Dragon Ball Minus and consider me very underwhelmed.

I would have rather had Toriyama use the Bardock story that we are familiar with, and perhaps explore some of the background of the Planet Trade Organization, or something much more interesting than an arguably weaker counterpart to the first Bardock special.

Why mess with the greatness that was the first special? I know it wasn't directly written by Toriyama but he really enjoyed it, so why offer an alternative look at it beyond just meeting some kind of publisher request? Dragon Ball minus is way too short for me to stand on its own and I'm just kind of like about the whole thing.

But perhaps I'm just being way too negative about it all. Hmmmmmm.

[Chuquita]

I can only presume that thing child Gokû is floating in early in the comic must be his bed or a rejuvenation chamber because I can't think of anything else that makes sense. He's awake and in his armor later in the comic and it doesn't look like enough time as passed for him to have been a baby a few pages before.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Can't wait for the story now!